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NBA Offseason Trade Rumors – Carmelo Anthony, Allen Iverson on the Trading Block?

June 24, 2008

Denver's two superstars find themselves being talked about in trades

Carmelo Anthony and Allen Iverson Photo Credit: Icon SMI

Rumor: Carmelo Anthony, Marcus Camby, and/or Allen Iverson have been mentioned in possible trade discussions with the Detroit Pistons.

Source: ESPN

Analysis:

After being eliminated in the first round yet again despite employing one defensive and two offensive superstars—all three of which are being paid rather handsomely—the Denver Nuggets are understandably looking to shake things up.

The Detroit Pistons advanced to their sixth straight Eastern Conference Finals only to lose for the fifth time and fail to return to the NBA Finals for the first time since they won it in 2004. Their head coach has already been fired, and GM Joe Dumars has made it very clear that he thinks his core group has grown too complacent playing with each other. Changes, possibly big ones, could be on the way.

It would make sense that these two teams be linked in early offseason trade rumors. The Pistons could use a young, up-and-coming superstar who can score with the best of ‘em most nights (Anthony), while Iverson is one of the most intense All-Stars not only of his generation, but in NBA history. He’d give the Pistons—or any team for that matter—a dynamic, scrappy scorer who’s somewhat of a man-to-man defensive liability but who plays the passing lanes as well as anybody. And while some question his leadership skills, nobody can say that he doesn’t leave it all out on the court every night. The man is hungry for a championship ring, and he’d no doubt endear himself to Pistons fans immediately.

The Nuggets, on the other hand, need some backbone. They’re sure as hell fun to watch, but their style of all-offense, no-defense basketball hasn’t translated well to the postseason. Most successful NBA teams need a solid, steadying presence at the point who can not only play at a high level but also help put his teammates in a position to succeed and help get them where they need to be; that’s Denver native Chauncey Billups. And Pistons’ do-it-all starting small forward Tayshaun Prince would be a fine replacement for Anthony should the 24-year-old be involved in a trade. Prince is capable of averaging 16+ points in an uptempo offense and is usually up to the challenge of playing tough defense on the opposing teams’ top wing scorer.

Conflicting reports have been flying these past few weeks. First it was Dumars inquiring about Anthony. Then it was the Nuggets inquiring about Billups and Dumars countering with Billups and Prince for Anthony and change. Then it was Denver counter-countering with packages centered around Iverson and/or Marcus Camby for Prince and Billups and Dumars passing. The latest is that Denver has assured Anthony and his agent that he will not be traded.

Could these two teams still swing a blockbuster deal this summer?

More on the Carmelo Anthony trade rumors after the break…

Chauncey Billups on the trading block?I’d like nothing more than to see Iverson end up in Detroit. At 33 years old A.I. is still one of the fiercest combatants in the NBA and one of my personal favorite players. In a hypothetical trade scenario that saw Iverson and Billups swap teams, the Pistons would be fielding a pretty sick backcourt of Iverson, Rip Hamilton, and Rodney Stuckey. Two slashers who can distribute and the league’s most consistent mid-range shooter. The sentiment has been floated that Stuckey is ready to start as soon as the 2008/09 season, but I’m still not so sure; one more season of 25+ minutes/per coming off the bench couldn’t hurt him.

Don’t forget that Iverson nearly came to the Pistons in a proposed trade centered around Jerry Stackhouse some years ago, a trade that was (from what I remember) nixed because then-76er Matt Geiger, who was also involved in the deal, had an odd trade kicker. If Dumars did in fact reject a proposal including Iverson from the Nuggets recently, that doesn’t necessarily mean it still couldn’t happen under the right circumstances.

Chauncey Billups Photo Credit: Icon SMI

For the most part, however, it seems like wishful thinking. Iverson will make $20 million in this the final season of his current deal, after which he’ll become an unrestricted free agent and by all means looking for a four- or five-year deal next summer. I’m not sure the Pistons are ready to commit to that, and as such I’m not sure they’re willing to rent him for one season.

I still think Carmelo Anthony is in play, however. Just today—after a tumultuous few weeks that saw Anthony get arrested for a DUI and call a meeting with Denver management to discuss his name being involved in all kinds of trade rumors—the team announced he would be suspended for the first two games next season because of the drunk-driving offense. Standard punishment, but the timing really couldn’t have been worse. This relationship is mutually souring, and we could see Anthony getting fed up all together and demanding a trade or the Nuggets themselves start fielding offers and selling to the highest bidder. Who knows.

If he is traded, would it be to Detroit? I’m not sure it’s a great fit, but perhaps Dumars views the still somewhat immature Anthony as yet another reclamation project of sorts and thinks he can turn his attitude around in Detroit if surrounded by the right people. For all his flaws, let’s not forget that ‘Melo is still very young and coming off a season in which he averaged 25.7 points, 49% FG, 7.4 boards, 3.4 assists, and 1.3 steals; clearly, he wouldn’t be a bad “gamble.”

Even if these teams were having serious discussions about any of the players mentioned above, remember that because of their contracts there’s no way any trade involving Anthony or Billups can happen until July 1. My feeling is that Denver and Detroit haven’t permanently ended this conversation, but that they’re still pretty far away.

10 Comments »Posted by Brian Spencer on Jun. 24, 2008 at 12:23 am in ETB Articles, NBA

10 Responses

the trade was voided because of matt geiger, not jeff foster….not positive if it was a failed physical, or just a no trade clause in his contract….would’ve loved to have gotten A.I. 8 years ago as a Pistons fan, but today I”m not so sure…

Posted by: david on June 24th, 2008 at 9:24 am

Ah, that’s right, Geiger… thanks. It was a bit foggy.

Posted by: Brian Spencer on June 24th, 2008 at 9:42 am

yea i just remember it so well because we were so pumped….Allen Iverson! and then it was vetoed because of stupid Matt Geiger…I don’t remember if Joe D was the GM at the time or not….I think so? That would have been a great blockbuster to start off the decade, who knows how it would’ve changed things

Posted by: david on June 24th, 2008 at 9:53 am

I think (but am not positive) that was before Joe D’s time… but it definitely is interesting to think about how different these Pistons would have ended up. Since they later traded Stackhouse for Rip Hamilton, well, we definitely wouldn’t have had Rip (obviously).

I still think A.I. would be a nice fit. He’s older but really hasn’t shown any signs of slowing down whatsoever. Amazing, really, considering the pounding that little guy takes every season.

Posted by: Brian Spencer on June 24th, 2008 at 10:47 am

that is the best trade they should do that it would be better for both teams detroit would be better of corse iverson for billups the lineup would be pg-allen iverson
sg-rip hamilton
sf-tayshaun prince
pf-antonio mcdyess
c-rasheed wallece that is the best lineup better then bostons lineupand they will win the ring once again so iverson can get one so PLEASE go to the pistons iverson PLEASE!!!!!

Posted by: trong on June 27th, 2008 at 10:53 pm

MATT GREGIOR IS SO STUPID GOD LET IVERSON GO TO THE PISTONS NOT ANTHONY IVERSON

Posted by: trong on June 27th, 2008 at 10:55 pm

The Melo for Sheed and Prince trade was already rejected…They countered with a package of Iverson and Camby but Joe D said he’s only interested in Melo.

Posted by: Juicy on June 29th, 2008 at 1:38 pm

I think allen iverson should go 2 the pistion or the lakers cause allen iverson is my favorite player and the only thing he is missing is a ring with the pistion or the lakers he can get one allen the best palyer alive

Posted by: alandress on June 29th, 2008 at 3:46 pm

Personally i think going after anthony is a good move. Say the pistons drafted anthony would he have had the same impact defensively? No and he wasnt at the level then to score forty a game like we are used to seeing. The pistons got the most out of their championship roster and now it time to make changee. The only thing im worried about is getting a good big to play along side of sheed and melo. just in case sheed has one of his fits.

Posted by: ej robinson on June 29th, 2008 at 3:54 pm

I say simply swap allen iverson for billups theres our championship in det keep everybody else .mr bigshot yeah ummm ok

Posted by: daddy on July 12th, 2008 at 9:26 am

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