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	<title>Comments on: Does Anybody in NBA History Better Personify &#8220;Petulance&#8221; than Shaquille O&#8217;Neal?</title>
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		<title>By: Andrew Thell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew Thell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Apr 2008 23:17:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>JT-

That&#039;s fascinating stuff, I knew the man had an inferiority complex of sorts despite being one of the most accomplished athletes in NBA history, but I didn&#039;t know it was to such an extent. His psychology would actually be very interesting if he wasn&#039;t so easily reducible to an arrogant, transparent, vindictive and obnoxious idiot man-child.</description>
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<p>That&#8217;s fascinating stuff, I knew the man had an inferiority complex of sorts despite being one of the most accomplished athletes in NBA history, but I didn&#8217;t know it was to such an extent. His psychology would actually be very interesting if he wasn&#8217;t so easily reducible to an arrogant, transparent, vindictive and obnoxious idiot man-child.</p>
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		<title>By: jt</title>
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		<dc:creator>jt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Apr 2008 22:57:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I found your piece on the link from Bethlehem Shoals&#039; post on Sporting News. I have to say I have been waiting on someone to put something like this out for a decade now, so thanks.

I am from L.A. and I have actually had the chance to spend time amongst Shaq and Kobe. To sum up a long story, Shaq/Kobe&#039;s arrival in 96 coincided with my departure from college, and the launching of my first business, a promotion and marketing company. Through hardwork and dumbluck, we scored a contract with A&amp;M Records. Shaq was launching his TWisM label at the time, and our focus was on entertainment, particularly clothes and music so everything clicked. Because of our company&#039;s ethnic diversity and our ability to launch a brand, we became Shaq&#039;s personal team at A&amp;M. My partners and I were 19, and now had LA&#039;s biggest star as a client, we were stoked. Mind you we are independent contractors, and made our name working with a host of top artists simultaneously, so as big as Shaq is/was, we still had others to service. Shaq though quickly became a pain, the man is larger than life but he would not go anywhere without a full street team arriving before hand to let the crowd know he was coming out. This wasn&#039;t for press and show, we aren&#039;t talking about signings, photo ops, release parties, this was to go out to dinner, to go get his haircut, if our team wasn&#039;t available at all times to assure that his presence was known by everyone prior to arrival, then he would circle the block endlessly, till it was known. Posters, stickers, and picket signs had to be plastered on poles, and carried by all. I&#039;d never met a person with so much fame, who was so identifiable, and yet lacked confidence like this guy. He literally needed to bring his own crowd with him at all times.

The guy has problems, he not only has to feel appreciated at all times, by everyone, but he needs to be worshiped and reminded often of how great and special he is. 

We lasted on the Shaq account for as long as his label existed, which wasn&#039;t long, because no amount of work could get that album sold, I was actually happy when it ended even if it meant I lost my hookup on Laker tickets.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I found your piece on the link from Bethlehem Shoals&#8217; post on Sporting News. I have to say I have been waiting on someone to put something like this out for a decade now, so thanks.</p>
<p>I am from L.A. and I have actually had the chance to spend time amongst Shaq and Kobe. To sum up a long story, Shaq/Kobe&#8217;s arrival in 96 coincided with my departure from college, and the launching of my first business, a promotion and marketing company. Through hardwork and dumbluck, we scored a contract with A&amp;M Records. Shaq was launching his TWisM label at the time, and our focus was on entertainment, particularly clothes and music so everything clicked. Because of our company&#8217;s ethnic diversity and our ability to launch a brand, we became Shaq&#8217;s personal team at A&amp;M. My partners and I were 19, and now had LA&#8217;s biggest star as a client, we were stoked. Mind you we are independent contractors, and made our name working with a host of top artists simultaneously, so as big as Shaq is/was, we still had others to service. Shaq though quickly became a pain, the man is larger than life but he would not go anywhere without a full street team arriving before hand to let the crowd know he was coming out. This wasn&#8217;t for press and show, we aren&#8217;t talking about signings, photo ops, release parties, this was to go out to dinner, to go get his haircut, if our team wasn&#8217;t available at all times to assure that his presence was known by everyone prior to arrival, then he would circle the block endlessly, till it was known. Posters, stickers, and picket signs had to be plastered on poles, and carried by all. I&#8217;d never met a person with so much fame, who was so identifiable, and yet lacked confidence like this guy. He literally needed to bring his own crowd with him at all times.</p>
<p>The guy has problems, he not only has to feel appreciated at all times, by everyone, but he needs to be worshiped and reminded often of how great and special he is. </p>
<p>We lasted on the Shaq account for as long as his label existed, which wasn&#8217;t long, because no amount of work could get that album sold, I was actually happy when it ended even if it meant I lost my hookup on Laker tickets.</p>
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		<title>By: REALESTVOICE</title>
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		<dc:creator>REALESTVOICE</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Mar 2008 11:43:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OK...OK...i totally understand what you are saying about Shaq...I have met Shaq many times since I am from Orlando and travel to Miami consantly...BUT...i have to say this...believe it or not, people hate Shaq becuase he is real...most NBA players have been superstars since they started in the game...plush limos, mansions, free bar tabs and pretty much anything they want...thats not the normal life...no 9-5...no job interviews...so whats my point right? my point is that even though they have been spoiled for a while, they are still normal people...they just have a different outlook on life, from their &quot;status&quot; in this world...their thoughts on life are usually a little different than our thoughts on life...Shaq beats someone up in the club? the world knows within the hour...NBA player cheats on his wife? we know within the hour...if i choke out my wife in the club after she caught me in a threesome and then light her on fire in front of the cops? maybe a couple of people will hear about it and it might get a 6 sentence article on page 12 of the &quot;Community&quot; section in the daily paper....

my point is this: NBA players are supposed to be &quot;ON&quot; 24/7...they are role models for kids, heroes for some people, looked up to by millions...so they must &quot;act&quot; differently for the camera and for the people..they get paid millions so why not straighten up right? its true but why cant u have a couple of them be real? like really real? like say what they want and be a normal person? i know it will stir this up but me personally, i like the way Shaq is..he says what he feels at whatever time it happens..i commend him for having the balls to open his mouth and say stupid things every once in a while...i do it all the time as well as most of the people reading this...u know u have said something stupid in public or wherever and wished u could take it back but chances r that it was the truth of how u felt at the time...whats the difference with Shaq...props go out to Shaq for being Shaq...i agree sometimes he should tone it down some but oh well...do your thing Shaq....i find it entertaining and as much as people complain about it, it gives u something to laugh at and talk about.....right?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK&#8230;OK&#8230;i totally understand what you are saying about Shaq&#8230;I have met Shaq many times since I am from Orlando and travel to Miami consantly&#8230;BUT&#8230;i have to say this&#8230;believe it or not, people hate Shaq becuase he is real&#8230;most NBA players have been superstars since they started in the game&#8230;plush limos, mansions, free bar tabs and pretty much anything they want&#8230;thats not the normal life&#8230;no 9-5&#8230;no job interviews&#8230;so whats my point right? my point is that even though they have been spoiled for a while, they are still normal people&#8230;they just have a different outlook on life, from their &#8220;status&#8221; in this world&#8230;their thoughts on life are usually a little different than our thoughts on life&#8230;Shaq beats someone up in the club? the world knows within the hour&#8230;NBA player cheats on his wife? we know within the hour&#8230;if i choke out my wife in the club after she caught me in a threesome and then light her on fire in front of the cops? maybe a couple of people will hear about it and it might get a 6 sentence article on page 12 of the &#8220;Community&#8221; section in the daily paper&#8230;.</p>
<p>my point is this: NBA players are supposed to be &#8220;ON&#8221; 24/7&#8230;they are role models for kids, heroes for some people, looked up to by millions&#8230;so they must &#8220;act&#8221; differently for the camera and for the people..they get paid millions so why not straighten up right? its true but why cant u have a couple of them be real? like really real? like say what they want and be a normal person? i know it will stir this up but me personally, i like the way Shaq is..he says what he feels at whatever time it happens..i commend him for having the balls to open his mouth and say stupid things every once in a while&#8230;i do it all the time as well as most of the people reading this&#8230;u know u have said something stupid in public or wherever and wished u could take it back but chances r that it was the truth of how u felt at the time&#8230;whats the difference with Shaq&#8230;props go out to Shaq for being Shaq&#8230;i agree sometimes he should tone it down some but oh well&#8230;do your thing Shaq&#8230;.i find it entertaining and as much as people complain about it, it gives u something to laugh at and talk about&#8230;..right?</p>
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		<title>By: PeanutButterSpread</title>
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		<dc:creator>PeanutButterSpread</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Mar 2008 22:05:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And now you all know why Lakers fans hate Shaq now. It&#039;s not because we&#039;re ungrateful of what he&#039;s done for LA in helping with the 3-peat championships, but it&#039;s what happened after he left LA. 

The last year he was with the Lakers, Shaq bragged that all he needed was Gary Peyton and Karl Malone to get another ring. Wrong! Then suddenly D. Wade was the &quot;best player in the game&quot;; he &quot;loved him like a little brother&quot;. Two years later, the Heat sink into the mud and Shaq runs back to the west. Now, he&#039;s going to take Amare &quot;to the next level&quot;.
What happened? Did Wade suddenly fall out of favor? Is that what happened to Penny Hardaway, and then Kobe? 

What he&#039;s said about Miami, the Lakers, it just all shows that he&#039;s the bandwagon-er. He has no right to accuse Bill Walton of that when Shaq is the one running to good teams (Miami and Suns) and leaching of their backs to win championships.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And now you all know why Lakers fans hate Shaq now. It&#8217;s not because we&#8217;re ungrateful of what he&#8217;s done for LA in helping with the 3-peat championships, but it&#8217;s what happened after he left LA. </p>
<p>The last year he was with the Lakers, Shaq bragged that all he needed was Gary Peyton and Karl Malone to get another ring. Wrong! Then suddenly D. Wade was the &#8220;best player in the game&#8221;; he &#8220;loved him like a little brother&#8221;. Two years later, the Heat sink into the mud and Shaq runs back to the west. Now, he&#8217;s going to take Amare &#8220;to the next level&#8221;.<br />
What happened? Did Wade suddenly fall out of favor? Is that what happened to Penny Hardaway, and then Kobe? </p>
<p>What he&#8217;s said about Miami, the Lakers, it just all shows that he&#8217;s the bandwagon-er. He has no right to accuse Bill Walton of that when Shaq is the one running to good teams (Miami and Suns) and leaching of their backs to win championships.</p>
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		<title>By: grungedave</title>
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		<dc:creator>grungedave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Mar 2008 21:44:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yes, yes, a million times yes.

Shaq is nothing but an oversized 14 year old who refuses to mature or accept responsibility for anything.

To hell with the Fat Ass.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yes, yes, a million times yes.</p>
<p>Shaq is nothing but an oversized 14 year old who refuses to mature or accept responsibility for anything.</p>
<p>To hell with the Fat Ass.</p>
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		<title>By: frank</title>
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		<dc:creator>frank</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Mar 2008 20:39:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s also worth mentioning that Shaq is the only person in the history of civilization to have a feud with David Robinson. You can guess which side started that.

I&#039;ve had a soft spot for Shaq for years, but this is a great article.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s also worth mentioning that Shaq is the only person in the history of civilization to have a feud with David Robinson. You can guess which side started that.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve had a soft spot for Shaq for years, but this is a great article.</p>
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		<title>By: Shinons</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shinons</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Mar 2008 19:17:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>By the way, when asking &quot;Does anyone in NBA history personify petulance more than Shaq?&quot;, does Joey Crawford count?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>By the way, when asking &#8220;Does anyone in NBA history personify petulance more than Shaq?&#8221;, does Joey Crawford count?</p>
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		<title>By: Karl</title>
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		<dc:creator>Karl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Mar 2008 19:14:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve been thinking all of these things for years and wondering if I was the only one who noticed these things. If any other athlete said half the stuff Shaq said they&#039;d be crucified and called a cancer. But Shaq is great with a mic in his face and gets lavished with praise.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been thinking all of these things for years and wondering if I was the only one who noticed these things. If any other athlete said half the stuff Shaq said they&#8217;d be crucified and called a cancer. But Shaq is great with a mic in his face and gets lavished with praise.</p>
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		<title>By: James Ambrose</title>
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		<dc:creator>James Ambrose</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Mar 2008 17:45:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dan, you just wasted two minutes of my life and I want them back. I was seriously grossed out by that display.

And doesn&#039;t that just feed into how petulant he is? And the image of the lovable big goof that has been accepted, despite that fact that he&#039;s proven himself to be a major league assh*le?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dan, you just wasted two minutes of my life and I want them back. I was seriously grossed out by that display.</p>
<p>And doesn&#8217;t that just feed into how petulant he is? And the image of the lovable big goof that has been accepted, despite that fact that he&#8217;s proven himself to be a major league assh*le?</p>
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		<title>By: Dan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Mar 2008 17:38:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You want to know why Shaq is so popular?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GgGW5UM2iss</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You want to know why Shaq is so popular?</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GgGW5UM2iss" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GgGW5UM2iss</a></p>
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		<title>By: phil anselmo</title>
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		<dc:creator>phil anselmo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Mar 2008 16:45:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was in Jr high when Shaq came into the league and I detested him until a few years ago. I&#039;m reminded of a jerry garcia quote, comparing the dead to &quot;old whores and bad architecture&quot; in that if you stick around long enough, you&#039;re bound garner some respect. 

I see most of your points, but the &quot;its what we didn&#039;t do, not what they did to win.&quot; stuff is just a confidence thing and its not as if shaq was the first, only, or last  athlete to use that defense mechanism. 

Very well written article, though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was in Jr high when Shaq came into the league and I detested him until a few years ago. I&#8217;m reminded of a jerry garcia quote, comparing the dead to &#8220;old whores and bad architecture&#8221; in that if you stick around long enough, you&#8217;re bound garner some respect. </p>
<p>I see most of your points, but the &#8220;its what we didn&#8217;t do, not what they did to win.&#8221; stuff is just a confidence thing and its not as if shaq was the first, only, or last  athlete to use that defense mechanism. </p>
<p>Very well written article, though.</p>
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		<title>By: George</title>
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		<dc:creator>George</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Mar 2008 16:40:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Exactly.

Shaquille O&#039;Neal always seems as though he&#039;s either the junior high bully, or the one who got picked on all the time. And it is just.....beneath a player of his caliber to do this every...single...time.

I get that it is extraordinarily difficult for a man of his size to stay in shape. I realize he takes more of a beating in the paint than most any other player. I understand that he loves to be the focus of all the attention. I also can&#039;t stand the tin ear of a man who clearly has such sensitivity to criticism that he has to lash out at anyone in his past, whether they deserve it or not.

There is no question he is one of the greatest players in NBA history. And much of this will be plowed under in the sweep of his grandeur and sense of humor when he finally does retire and go to the Hall of Fame. But I won&#039;t forget.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Exactly.</p>
<p>Shaquille O&#8217;Neal always seems as though he&#8217;s either the junior high bully, or the one who got picked on all the time. And it is just&#8230;..beneath a player of his caliber to do this every&#8230;single&#8230;time.</p>
<p>I get that it is extraordinarily difficult for a man of his size to stay in shape. I realize he takes more of a beating in the paint than most any other player. I understand that he loves to be the focus of all the attention. I also can&#8217;t stand the tin ear of a man who clearly has such sensitivity to criticism that he has to lash out at anyone in his past, whether they deserve it or not.</p>
<p>There is no question he is one of the greatest players in NBA history. And much of this will be plowed under in the sweep of his grandeur and sense of humor when he finally does retire and go to the Hall of Fame. But I won&#8217;t forget.</p>
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