Comments on: Is Two-Time MVP Steve Nash Overrated?

By: Shannon

Shannon — Mon, 15 Jun 2009 20:23:07 +0000

I live in Phoenix and I am a very large Suns fan. That being said, Nash is OVER RATED. It is onre thing to see his numbers on espn and make your decision, but I get to watch Nash every game here in Phoenix. I will tell you first hand that we will never win a title with Nash at point. Even when we had Marbury, our team did not win as many games but we were solid overall because Marbury played defense. And if we had kept Kidd, we might already have a title.

By: andrew

andrew — Fri, 24 Apr 2009 01:25:43 +0000

This article is just plain unfounded. It’s so misinformed it’s not even funny. First of all, even though Nash’s teams have given up 100+ PPG, they’ve also led the league in scoring 7 STRAIGHT SEASONS. They’ve also led the league in FG % most of those seasons, if not all. Also like many others have said Nash doesn’t guard opposing All Star PG’s. Finally, Nash didn’t get his MVPs cause of his stats, he got his first for bringing a 40-win turnaround to his team and his second for leading his team to a 54-win record WITHOUT their 3 big men. He also basically established Stoudemire, Marion and Joe Johnson’s careers. Last but not least, keep in mind that the MVP is not awarded for great postseason play, that’s why it’s called the REGULAR SEASON MVP. Therefore it doesn’t matter that Nash has gotten eliminated in the playoffs (even though they should have been the rightful 2007 champs, what with Tim Donaghee making a totally BS play).

By: Brad

Brad — Fri, 02 Jan 2009 22:25:50 +0000

Actually Harold Reemus Steve Nash Is Canadian And all you haters yall know nash is nice admit it you say they were holding teams 2 97 pts per game is that the reason they went 33-49 record. But when nash came 2 da picture they were the best in the west so stop.

By: marc

marc — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 04:55:34 +0000

Steve nash is not the first overrated NBA MVP. A few years before him was AI, who was a selfish, high-scoring ballhog with a terrible shot selection and a very low FG% (I would take Nash over Iverson anyday). Shaq should have won the MVP that year, not Iverson. (Would you believe the big diesel only won a single MVP?)

The Mailman, although a great power forward, was overrated as an MVP. He won his 1st because everybody was tired of giving the MVP trophy to his Airness every year, so they decided to give it to Malone that year. Besides Stockton (who was a better all-around point guard than Nash) always made him look better than he actually was.

Dirk is a perfect example of an overrated MVP. Duncan is an example of a really deserving MVP by winning both regular season and playoffs MVP. Same goes with Shaq. There are 3 major reasons why Steve Nash will always be overrated: 1. his inability to guard anybody. 2. winning consecutive MVP’s and 3. not being successful in the playoffs (despite having so many All-Star teammates throughout his career). Is Steve valuable? Definitely. But as great as Steve Nash is, he has not yet been proven as a winner. And for that reason alone, he is overrated.

By: Vince

Vince — Fri, 25 Apr 2008 13:06:31 +0000

Steve Nash is totally overrated, I agree and I wrote a post here about it:

http://www.everythingisoverrated.com/?p=20

By: yongk

yongk — Mon, 07 Apr 2008 03:16:22 +0000

nash is exactly a modern day bob cousy (who couldn’t defend too), and cousy was a MVP. the reason is guard defence isn’t that vital to the defence of a team, and thus the value of a great PG who can lead, pass n score outweights a guard like kidd who can defend but cannot score.

By: GhiaElcid

GhiaElcid — Sat, 15 Mar 2008 00:27:15 +0000

**Posted by: Benjamin on February 27th, 2008 at 4:41 am **

**… or that people don’t respect Bowen’s defense and just call him a hack. Some very strange ideas. **

hey a-hole, watch this -> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w8WXVJQ06Sk

f*ckin dirty players..

By: Sixnine

Sixnine — Fri, 07 Mar 2008 02:32:04 +0000

Has anyone noticed the glaring discrepancy in the evaluation of the current candidates for MVP’s versus the times when Nash and Dirk won theirs? All of a sudden when there is a discussion of differences between the players, all the commentators are referring to the defensive differences between Kobe and Lebron, the “all around game” offensively and defensively of CP3 and Kevin Garnett? Why is it that defense is now apart of the equation.

By: Marcus

Marcus — Thu, 06 Mar 2008 13:44:15 +0000

Joe, I just said that about Magic if because someone might bash him because he was known for assists.

By: tripledouble

tripledouble — Thu, 06 Mar 2008 00:34:17 +0000

I have read this whole column cuz a friend told me about it and all I can say is Damn! First things first, Nash is over rated becuz all he does well is assists. I read about his Field Goal % and all that but that doesnt make a difference if hes not scoring. He doesnt take many shots anyway. I think he might have deserved the 1st MVP but James, Kobe and even Duncan could have won that award. I cant say it was politics but no one knows why he was chosen for the 2nd one. I guess they flipped a coin. I am older, so, in my younger years I got the chance to see Larry Bird play in the Garden with some good seats. I had season tickets and I was close enough to talk to the bench. JJoe, you have no idea what you are talking about. Larry made All Defensive Team like 3 or 4 times. How can you say he was terrible? You really must be crazy. To compare Nash to Larry is a disgrace. Nash is a passer, thats it, nothing more. Please dont get offensive when someone has an opinion. You seem to go off on ohther roads when you have nothing to back your postings up. Everyone just calm down, lets leave the moms and families out of it and talk basketball. By the way, Mr. Thell, great subject, even though it has gone all over, you make some valid points. Over rated and nowhere near the top for MVP voting this year.

Bless

By: Joejacobi

Joejacobi — Thu, 06 Mar 2008 00:06:13 +0000

agreed to far…however, the personal attacks were started by the guy. My apologies, should have not went to down to his level. It could go on but no need to respond to that above…lol.

Marcus, I never said anything about Magic??? I believe all I said is he played with HOF’s????
Disagree with the ’shooting’ ability of Nash, I’ve already alluded to his ALL TIME stats and what it takes to be a PG and have a high FG%. Just read above – easy to understand, not sure what else I’ve missed?

Marcus, what’s this with BIRD comparison’s? I didn’t compare the 2 as players? I just said Bird did not play great one on one ‘d’ – he got in passing lanes etc. This is the problem with posting on these sites or chat rooms – things that are said get twisted or forgotten when writing your own comment – I’m to blame as well.

Agreed – I can name 2-3 PG’s who are playing better than Nash this year. He just doesn’t seem to have a ‘flow’ this year…maybe age? injuries? who knows?

I’m done, no need to defend Nash’s accomplishments – a democracy voted – nuff said.

By: Marcus

Marcus — Wed, 05 Mar 2008 23:14:49 +0000

Damn, Joe and Realest are taking it a little too far. I just want to add a few things.

1. I don’t have a problem with Nash’s 1st MVP, there really anyone else other than Duncan and Shaq,but the second was a joke. Face it, MVPs in since Nash have been on the best teams in the West. Proof comes from last years winner, and the one currently in first place this year(Not nearly as much as last year, and it’s hard for alot of people to choose.) Seriously, LBJ should have won in Nash’s 2nd MVP year, as well as last year, but since the Cavs were in the East, it had to go to Nash and then Dirk. He had better numbers all around than those two, and his team had good position in the playoffs. He should get it this year, but since Kobe(My favorite player BTW) is on the Lakers who might finish in the top 2 in the West, he will most likely win it.

2. Some people didn’t look at my last few posts. Nash doesn’t take many shots(only between 8-13 a game), which leads to a higher FG%. Also alot of the 3s he hits that I see are usually wide open or close to wide open, which leads to the higher 3%.

3. MVPs need more than just assists. True, assists are good to have, and 10+ is good, but fact is the other guy has to make the shot, and Nash has some of the best shooters when left open. All in all assists are over-rated.

4.Joe, before you say anything about Magic, remember he gave over 20 points, 6 rebounds,and over 1.5 steals a game during his MVP seasons. He deserved those 3 MVPS, Nash didn’t deserve the second.

5.Joe, you are wrong about Bird. He wasn’t a terrible defender like Nash is. Bird was just average. Not only that, but the 80s were and are considered the best years in the NBA. It had the best talent. Not to mention I think he was on the defensive second team a few times. Nash can’t be compared to Bird because Bird gave just about everything; all Nash truely gives is assists(which like I said are over-rated).

6. As it is, I can name 4 or 5 PGs who are better than Nash this year.

7. Yes I played basketball, but I couldn’t make a career of it because of a knee injury I haven’t truely recovered from.

8. Finally, you two need to calm down(I think I pretty much speak for everyone here).